Hi. I'm in Oakland, I've looked at the art around here and is it just me or does the art on the West Coast suck compared to Chicago or New York?
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Mon, May 17, 2004 - 11:42 PMwell, now careful kitten, the west coast does not had the same kind of investment over time that chicago and new york have had. sfmoma is very new... there are good shows in san francisco... you just have to look out for them... and you could always check out the getty in l.a.
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Mon, May 24, 2004 - 5:12 AMUmmm, I'm not talking about SF MoMa or the Getty. I'm talking about the essence of what I remember. It was a special time for small and medium sized galleries in Chicago when I was there. I just don't feel it out here the way I did there. I haven't been back in 8 years and from what I heard the development scene has eaten up all the cool spaces that used to show new artist's on a regular basis.
Out here in Oakland and SF, there isn't that much going on. It's been worse since the "bubble" burst in 2000. -
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Thu, December 30, 2004 - 6:55 PMSpeaking of Los Angeles - There's no real alternative gallery district here it seems to me like there was with N.A.M.E. and Randolph Street or maybe I've just never found them. Would be nice to find a community of artists/smaller venues to go see work at in LA. I think there's more of that up in the Bay Area.
I miss that voodoo boudoir vibe that Lower Links used to have! -
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Fri, December 31, 2004 - 4:00 PMDon't know anything about the LA scene...
but I feel you on missing the Lower Links feel...
as well as just the overall groovy vibe that chi-town had in many respects as far as even cafes & art parties etc.
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Sat, January 1, 2005 - 9:32 PMSorry to burst your bubble Dee but there really isn't an artist's community like there was in Chicago up here. I just started a fine arts photographer's critique group with a woman that owns a really good black and white lab. It's a small group, since we just started 3 months ago. It is also hard to get people out of the mindset of commerical work and thinking strictly about their work as art.
I miss lower links and milly mae's orchid show. Nothing like that out here.
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Mon, January 3, 2005 - 10:02 PMSo how can we make the Cali scene cool and bitchin like ChiTown? The state is so dang big. I just can't wrap my head around the geographical distances. Mainly I was doing Perf Art and Photo in Chi. Here in LA the Perf Art is not of the caliber that it was in Chgo unfortunately and so I moved into reviewing P-Art and then eventually into film instead.
I played Milly's! It was a vital thriving scene, I wish I knew what that spark, was to get a scene for art going in LA or elsewhere in Kali-forni-ah, cause I'd be there doing it. Maybe a tribe of us can figure that out together? "Expat Chicago 'Tuters subvert the West Coast's dominant paradigm?" -
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Tue, January 4, 2005 - 11:27 AMDee, I wish I could be as optimistic on this as you are. I've been living here for 9 years and I have lived in other large metropolitan areas that you wouldn't think would be known for having an "arts scene" like Houston, and Pittsburgh. I have to say that it is just crap out here for artists.
Maybe it is because California is such a transient state with people coming and going all the time. The huge funding cuts for the arts in combination with the high rental costs for spaces have closed more opportunities for new artist's. The state of California has allotted 50 cents per citizen for the arts. We now pay as much for the arts as Guam.
I suggest you do your own thing, like I'm doing with this woman that owns a custom black and white lab. Our problem is getting the idea of what "fine art" is and what it isn't. As the co-host for this newly formed arts group, I'd preferr to talk to you about this in detail off of the thread. -
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Sat, May 21, 2005 - 12:58 AMI am in the UK in Birmingham. -
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Sun, May 22, 2005 - 11:58 PMWelcome Aidan. Did you go to the 'Tute or hang out with folks from the 'Tute? -
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Wed, May 25, 2005 - 7:02 PMI took sound engineering there with kevin huotari. -
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Fri, May 27, 2005 - 9:23 AMMainly I was at Columbia College because I was studying Arts Management and Music, because I was in bands in Chicago. One time one of the Artists from the Wacker drive building invited a 100 guitar players to play sweet jane, altogether and video taped it at saic. I was in that, it was fun. That was one of many events at SAIC.
Later when I moved to California, I got more into spoken word and started painting again, made installations pieces. -
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Sat, May 28, 2005 - 12:49 AMHey Aiden,
Are you still creating installations? -
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Wed, June 1, 2005 - 4:17 AMI had a council flat in Nottingham it was on the eighth floor of a 26 story building with 2 floors of mall at the bottom levels. it was right in the city centre of nottingham, a city of about a quarter of a million. I turned it into one giant installation it was cool. I made pieces using boxframes from beds and painting them and putting stuff on them and then saran wrapping it all. People there sort of freaked out actually it was a bit too metropolitan for them or something.
What was the name of that german artist who did that and continued in Britain during the second world war? i'll go look it up. trivia question.
I got involved with running a voluntary art gallery in Nottingham and displayed some of my work there as well.
But 3 years ago I moved back over here west in the midlands to Birmingham and worked at an art house cinema for a while I put on art exhibits in the foyer as well, but then I regrouped and worked for the Thai Buddhist monks again. Then I went on this very academic access course and started doing mundane temp jobs. Now it feels like I want to start making stuff again and mingling but yeah I guess that's why I am on here yeah? I want to talk to other creative people who share similar outlooks. And what better place to start than here really? Especially on this thread where there is all this talk of Chicago and California, 2 places where I spent combined 15 years living in.
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Re: Any members from the 'Tute out here?
Sat, May 28, 2005 - 12:47 AMSorry Beth, I'm just answering your post a year later...
Did you know kevin huotari ?
I understand what you are saying about Chicago in the period you mention. I miss it too. The socio-economic development in California is radically different then in Chicago. This has led to a very different culture here.
I think the Bay area has a lot of artists working in many different mediums... It's just very different from the "scene" you are talking about... It's harder to meet those people, but they are out there.
Oscar Wilde said : We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have.
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